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Once Upon A Time Was anyone annoyed with Rumple using Snow's love for Henry to get her to do a horrible thing?

44 fans picked:
No, he was just trying to save his own life.
   43%
Yes, he is such a manipulator.
   30%
Indifferent/Didn't Notice
   27%
 minervadawn posted over a year ago
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claudia_bb picked No, he was just trying to save his own life.:
Rumps proved one more time that he's the strongest. Also that he's an awesome villain and beyond that: a complex character.

Don't agree with the last part of the answer I've picked, but.. out of the choices I'm given... So.. yeah, It's: NO!

@minervadawn, just gonna give you a piece of advice I got from another fan for one of my picks:
" @claudia-bb: Next time, don't write the answers instead of us in a opinions."

because we're all equal here, right? and have the same rights :)
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zanhar1 picked Yes, he is such a manipulator.:
Why are you being...harsh about her answers? She's not even the one who said anything to you. And of all the people here, she's the one who really hasn't even said anything mean to you. Plus her answers are fair and reasonable with the poll and doesn't make the poll sound biased, like she wants you to pick a certain answer.
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claudia_bb picked No, he was just trying to save his own life.:
^I wasn't talking to you. I don't understand your need to leave this comment.

I wasn't trying to be mean. Just pointing out that a lot of people make picks with options that include an answer. This one here too: link

But somehow I'm the only one that gets pointed at. Let's just be fair about things. Or should I also leave this spot like my sister Princess-Yvonne so that you all be happy?
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minervadawn picked Yes, he is such a manipulator.:
I only put the add-on there because I find "no" very boring and it opens the question up to more conversation. Please tell me why you disagree. Why do you think Rumple manipulated Snow if it wasn't to save his own life?

Killing someone to save yourself isn't exactly noble but it's understandable, but convincing someone as pure of heart as Snow to do it by using her love for her grandchild makes me think that he doesn't care about family as much as people think, he certainly doesn't care about Snow and Henry. They are just ponds to him.

This is also why I'm so annoyed by what Snow did. I understand why she did it, but the way she did it... Using love to hurt someone is a terrible thing.
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BookWorm26 picked No, he was just trying to save his own life.:
So, for one thing, he just found his son. He has Belle and his power]
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zanhar1 picked Yes, he is such a manipulator.:
@claudia I felt the need to leave this comment because you were going at not just one of my friend, but too. That was a jab at magichand and kind of harsh to minervadawn as she did nothing wrong.

Okay, if being mean wasn't your intent. I believe you. I just thought you were mocking magichand. And I guess I can see why you would think this is biased. I'll try to explain how I feel about the poll below.

The thing is the options on some polls, not pointing any fingers, (and sorry if I misinterpreted them) are almost trying to make you want to pick the other option. For instance there was a question along the lines of 'Did you like it when Gina _____?' The options being 'Yes because killing people is okay' and 'No, Gina is a horrible person' with no in between option. Where as this one is simply adding emphasis to the options and is not making someone who chose no sound like some crazy sadist, plus there is an in between option. There's a difference between this poll and some of the more biased sounding ones. I don't quite know how to explain it. And before anyone goes about misinterpreting this is not meant to sound sassy or angry.

As for you wanting to leave. That's your choice. I'm not going to beg you to stay nor am I going to try to shove you away. Do what you want, (I hope I don't sound rude but) it makes me no difference either way around. You leaving wouldn't make me happy nor sad, I wouldn't sit in my computer room cheering if you left that's for sure.
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claudia_bb picked No, he was just trying to save his own life.:
^wow! look at all the arguments you have just to justify being mean. just because you carefully choose your words doesn't mean you're less offending. At least if I have something to say I just say it.

how are MY picks any different from the others?
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zanhar1 picked Yes, he is such a manipulator.:
...Perhaps it's because I'm really not trying to be mean...
If I wanted to be mean, if that was my goal I wouldn't have said any of the no offenses.

Seriously, unlike you I actually try to be nice to people no matter how crappy they treat me. And you and your sister treat me like crap. If I'm being mean I will come right out with it, hence why I didn't put no offense by this last statement. I'm sorry that I'm the only one in this argument who realizes they are communicating with a living, breathing human being with real emotions and not just a computer. Is that how you see me? Just a computer? Does it make you feel powerful, making strangers feel bad? Pretty shallow on your behalf. (See, I don't apologize if I don't mean it. I have the guts to be upfront about my insults like you wanted.)

Like I honestly don't understand you. Are you ever satisfied? When I am being mean you (understandably) get mad at me. And when I'm trying to be nice and civil you yell at me and practically ask me to be mean to you to prove that I'm not a coward about it. What do you want from me? Do you want me to tell you to gtfo this spot? Do you want me to be mean? Or do you want me to be nice?
Please just answer me that because it seems like you get uptight no matter what.
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claudia_bb picked No, he was just trying to save his own life.:
Why not try to be fair? Everyone makes picks with longer variants of answer to pick. But you're only bothered by mine. Why?

I understand you don't feel comfortable. So, please just... can it stop? Can the "special treatment" for non-gina fans stop? I read many comments about how Snow should die or how Cora&Rumps together are gross... and did not reply. though those comments were hurtful as a dearie and fairest fan.

you can't expect everyone to love your favorite.

everyone here expresses themselves. why can't non-gina lovers do so too?

You deeply hurt my sister&best friend. I understand you feel like I've hurt you. Are we even? Can this just stop?
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zanhar1 picked Yes, he is such a manipulator.:
I honestly really don't care who makes what polls and why or how anymore. So long as they aren't polls meant to pick on a person. I don't care who makes it. I don't care if you made it, I don't care if magichand did, I don't care if I did. I just hate polls meant to annoy/hurt/mock a certain individual or group of people. I really don't care. Everyone is equal in my eyes.

I would love to stop but that awful hard when you're pinning it all on me. Gina fans aren't the only mean ones, you've been a real jerk too. This can end when you all stop insulting characters for no reason and when you all stop pointing the finger. I confessed that evil regals aren't perfect little angels that's the first step to solving things. Realizing that you weren't the only one hurt and that you hurt others too. I know I've been both hurt and hurt people. So I'm waiting to hear that from the other side before I make anymore useless amends that will just be refused or ignored in the end like always. I sort of just gave up after being denied so many times. If you want to get along with me, please let me know. Because so far all I've managed to pick up on was that you wanted to fight with me and that you like making me feel bad.

I'm not the boss of this spot, I can't just go around dictating what comments are posted therefore I don't comment on everything I disagree with.And dear gosh, fending for Snow fans and Cora/Gold fans as well as Regina would really wear me out mentally. So I just choose to fend for Gina, as she is my top priority, and it's nothing personal I do that with all my characters. I do that with anything I'm passionate about. And I don't expect everyone to love Gina, I just expected people to be respectful about their dislikes. Apparently I expected too much.

I've explained that so many times. It goes over everyone's heads each time.

Like I said up there. If you stop pinning it all on me and stop going out of your way to insult Regina and magichand and any of my friends I'd be happy to call it even and work with you. I've already apologized (and was not forgiven) so many times, I need one too and I need someone to vocally say they forgive me so I know. It's also gonna be hard to work things out of your sister and magichand aren't here too and agreeing to apologize, forgive, and forget too.

I really am all for making amends but it's going to be a real pain to get everyone involved to agree to stop. Like we would need our own forum to discuss apologies on so it's all in one place and more organized.
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claudia_bb picked No, he was just trying to save his own life.:
I understand you have to defend Gina. But can you understand that I, as a fairest, charming, beauty and dearie have to defend just as you do my favorites?
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zanhar1 picked Yes, he is such a manipulator.:
I do get that, hence why I wasn't mad until the more personal arguments started coming around.

Which is also why I think we (you, magichand, your sister, and I) all need to make a forum (where it'll be kept in one place, more organized, and less annoying, so to speak, to others on this spot) and discuss apologies and forgiveness as well as how we can prevent this from happening again.

And all of us kind of need to be there.
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claudia_bb picked No, he was just trying to save his own life.:
I don't think Yvonne ever wants to talk again.

But I'm open to the idea. Sounds interesting.

Now let me ask you something: I want to make a pick related to Gina and her paying Hook to murder Cora. Will it get nasty? I really don't want to. that's why I'm asking. I'm just going to put an "yes" or "no" option to my pick so that it does not sound it implies what answer to choose.
Can we have this pick and nicely debate over it without fights?
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zanhar1 picked Yes, he is such a manipulator.:
That's gonna be a problem. And I don't intend for that to sound rude.

Okay, I can create a forum for that, I'll message you and magichand the link. And if she's interested you can send it to your sister.

It shouldn't if the options are fair and we can talk nicely about our opinions. As I said I don't mind people asking questions if they do it nicely. You can ask what you want, I can't stop you. You don't need my permission to make a poll. And I don't want you to feel afraid to make them. If I notice it getting out of hand we can just agree to disagree. So ask away. ^_^
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zanhar1 picked Yes, he is such a manipulator.:
Also, I'm gonna make the forum on my spot so others won't get upset.
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Popcornfan picked No, he was just trying to save his own life.:
I'm annoyed at her for falling for that. We know Rumple is manipulative.
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