Because he is evil in nature. and cocky. and arrogant. and he mocks people who have infirmities. and takes wives and mothers from their home with no regret.
Rumpel was in essence a nice, warm, kind person. The curse turned him into The Dark One... He is cursed.
But as Belle said: "Rumpelstiltskin, this is not YOU!" I hope we'll see him in the end as the man he once was, plus the experience that he has accumulated and that made him more confident and stronger.
Lol! Rumpelstiltskin was always a coward, so yeah he's worse!
Also, we do not know what Hook was always like. He was probably very different before he was a pirate; besides I find him Hotter, more charming, and less creepy. ¥
Rumps is still a top character on my list though :)
having an infirmity is not something to laugh about... that made Rump very insecure. On the other hand I strongly dislike cocky, arrogant guys like Hook. he's like the teenager from highschool that always mocked the boys that he thought didn't look as good as him, had less money, or had a small infirmity.
@FassysHo: Yeah, there supposed to be Hook's backstory before he was a pirate...
@Yvonne: I understand... i also hate those kids, and like in every high school there's planty...
but Hook is a villain in this story, so i am not suprised....I like him because he's an interesanting charachter in this story and i am fan of a villains
I hate cocky arrogant bullies as much as the next guy but that doesn't necessarily make someone an evil monster. I think Gold is more monstrous in the fact that he rips out hearts, turns men into bugs, explodes faeries, ect.
Rumpel is that man who was searching for his wife in taverns and peacefully called her home...
Rumpel is that man who took care of his son always, being both mother and father for him
Rumpel is that man who served tea to his drunk, disrespectful wife.
Rumpel is that man who asked the woman he had married if she truly wanted him dead. and about why their simple, humble , yet filled with love life wasn't enough for her. Why he wasn't enough for her.
Rumpel is that man who couldn't go to war because he had an infirmity on his leg.. and because of it people made fun of him, humiliated him and called him coward.
Rumpel is that man who went on Hook's boat and respectfully and peacefully asked him to tell him where his wife and the mother of his child was. for that he was mocked, humiliated and nearly killed.
Good question zanhar :D
It is both, Rumpel has a lot of anger, and with this curse he can't control his anger..
Yvonne: Rumpel has done cruel things... That curse doesn't justify his actions, it only explanes why he is ''the beast''...
Yvonne you're right, Hook is also cruel :) But Rumpel tried to kill him, so he's now no better then him...
But i can't decide wich one is more evil.. because i still don't know Hook very well...
My point is how much of the evil that he's been doing is the curse and how much is him acting alone? I'm not saying this to demonize Rumple, I'm saying this simply because it's a possability.
I agree with every word Yvonne said.
We met "human Rumple" & Hook. Of course Rumple is "a monster" now, but it was caused by the curse & power. Rumple, when he met Hook, was definately a way better man than pirate-hottie-bullie, who apparently is evil by nature.
Of course what happned next with him was consequence of his choices & now he became as [although in a different way] evil as Hook, but we should compare human Hook with human Rumple, not monster-Rumple with human-Hook.
We have yet to see Hook actually do anything horrific. Sure he took Rumple's wife, but she went of her own free will. Has Hook killed anyone? We don't know. Though, I would like to remind people that Rumple was a monster before he even met Hook.
I forgot that he met Hook before he became the Dark One. Sorry. But once he became the Dark One he became a monster. It his transformation had nothing to do with Hook.
it had EVERYTHING to do with Hook. It because of him and people like him... making him feel unimportant, not good enough, vulnerable.. that he became interested in power! Before Hook came and destroyed his family he was a kind man, happy with the modest life he had!
I actually think they're about even, just in different ways. Hook steals, vandalizes, lies, and kills. At the very least, I certainly wouldn't say he's worse than Rumple.
I'd also like to point out that Rumple didn't kill the Dark One in the first place solely because of Hook. That's ignoring a pretty big chunk of his relationship with Bay, and his disgust with himself which fuels his entire character.
Fueling something and causing something are two different things. The peasants and Hook (and probably Milah, too), made the disgust worse. They didn't cause it.
How come? Rumpel was happy with his life. It was the others always telling him he is not good enough. When you hear every day that you are not good enough you start to believe it yourself. It is very cruel what they did to him! They've created 'the monster'. They are the monsters in fact.
he couldn't be in the battle because he had a wound on his leg! Having an infirmity is not something to be ashamed of... people should not laugh and condemn those with infirmities, make them feel like they are less of a human being ... I think it's very cruel!
People weren't laughing at his limp. They were laughing at his cowardice. Plenty of people get wounded in war. And plenty of people stay despite those wounds. Rumple didn't. He left. And his leaving made him hate himself, and made others look down on him because cowardice isn't a great trait to have.
When somebody gets wounded in the war they are sent home and called veterans. And they are admired by the society for their sacrifice, not laughed at. No one keeps wounded people in a war, because they do not stand a chance! To say like Milah that he would have better staid there and died is TOO CRUEL.
Rumple wasn't sent home. He ran home. He, literally, ran away from the battle that he was supposed to be fighting in. That's why he's called 'coward.' Because he did the cowardly thing and ran away.
I never said he would have been better off staying. I never said he'd have been better off doing anything. I'm using facts (Rumple's story that was told in depth in the show) as to why I feel the way I do.
He ran because he was wounded! In a world as ours he would have been sent home, to a hospital, given a decoration and speech on TV. Here, in fairyland he had to run for his life! How is that a thing to be condemned?! How is that a thing for which you must be humiliated and mocked your entire life. What about Hook?! Did he went to war?! Did he went there to die for a cause that wasn't his? Or Milah! Just because she is a woman... Women today go to war!
It's easy to judge and condemn. Especially when you weren't yourself in the same position as the condemned.
Because running in a battle, when people are being killed (and in our world too, not just Fairy Tale World), is called cowardice. It's not brave to abandon people who need you.
Hook probably has been in wars. That's kinda what pirates do.
In case you haven't noticed (which I'm assuming you haven't by this last comment) Fairy Tale World was modeled after our "old times." In "old times" lots of men went to war regardless of whether they thought the cause just or not. Women didn't fight. Honor, virtue, and bravery were held exceptionally close. What happens in today's world is completely irrelevant to what happens in Fairy Tale World. Fairy Tale World isn't like our modern world. You're comparing apples and fences.
It's also easy to romanticize a character with a sad past and a pretty face.
Until this moment, he barely evil, he's not even good at manipulating people, I kinda disappointed, I hope we will see more of his dark side in the next eps
I think he's awesome villain, but i need to see more episodes with him so that i can answer to this question... :D
Because he is evil in nature. and cocky. and arrogant. and he mocks people who have infirmities. and takes wives and mothers from their home with no regret.
Rumpel was in essence a nice, warm, kind person. The curse turned him into The Dark One... He is cursed.
But as Belle said: "Rumpelstiltskin, this is not YOU!" I hope we'll see him in the end as the man he once was, plus the experience that he has accumulated and that made him more confident and stronger.
Also, we do not know what Hook was always like. He was probably very different before he was a pirate; besides I find him Hotter, more charming, and less creepy. ¥
Rumps is still a top character on my list though :)
@Yvonne: I understand... i also hate those kids, and like in every high school there's planty...
but Hook is a villain in this story, so i am not suprised....I like him because he's an interesanting charachter in this story and i am fan of a villains
Rumpel is that man who took care of his son always, being both mother and father for him
Rumpel is that man who served tea to his drunk, disrespectful wife.
Rumpel is that man who asked the woman he had married if she truly wanted him dead. and about why their simple, humble , yet filled with love life wasn't enough for her. Why he wasn't enough for her.
Rumpel is that man who couldn't go to war because he had an infirmity on his leg.. and because of it people made fun of him, humiliated him and called him coward.
Rumpel is that man who went on Hook's boat and respectfully and peacefully asked him to tell him where his wife and the mother of his child was. for that he was mocked, humiliated and nearly killed.
that.... is Rumpel.
It is both, Rumpel has a lot of anger, and with this curse he can't control his anger..
Yvonne: Rumpel has done cruel things... That curse doesn't justify his actions, it only explanes why he is ''the beast''...
Yvonne you're right, Hook is also cruel :) But Rumpel tried to kill him, so he's now no better then him...
But i can't decide wich one is more evil.. because i still don't know Hook very well...
Like i said, Rumpel is no better then Hook..
But i like them both.... :DDDDDDD
We met "human Rumple" & Hook. Of course Rumple is "a monster" now, but it was caused by the curse & power. Rumple, when he met Hook, was definately a way better man than pirate-hottie-bullie, who apparently is evil by nature.
Of course what happned next with him was consequence of his choices & now he became as [although in a different way] evil as Hook, but we should compare human Hook with human Rumple, not monster-Rumple with human-Hook.
Hook can be cruel, yes, but I have faith in him.
Him running away started it. The others finished it.
I never said he would have been better off staying. I never said he'd have been better off doing anything. I'm using facts (Rumple's story that was told in depth in the show) as to why I feel the way I do.
It's easy to judge and condemn. Especially when you weren't yourself in the same position as the condemned.
Hook probably has been in wars. That's kinda what pirates do.
In case you haven't noticed (which I'm assuming you haven't by this last comment) Fairy Tale World was modeled after our "old times." In "old times" lots of men went to war regardless of whether they thought the cause just or not. Women didn't fight. Honor, virtue, and bravery were held exceptionally close. What happens in today's world is completely irrelevant to what happens in Fairy Tale World. Fairy Tale World isn't like our modern world. You're comparing apples and fences.
It's also easy to romanticize a character with a sad past and a pretty face.
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