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Hard no.

Yeah I gotta go with no because I think that it's over-reach. I think that people should be trusted to self-isolate. This seems a little extreme imo.

Yeah, like I’m really gonna let myself being taken away from my home to be quarantined with people I don’t know. Not.

FYI the link this poll seems to be based on is fake news... like actual fake news... sparked by link.

We do not have quarantine camps.

There are two issues that have been conflated and fake-news-ised here. Firstly, New Zealanders returning home must isolate in a managed isolation facility, which is a 4 or 5-star hotel. Healthcare and other assistance is all provided. All meals are provided, and most pay nothing for their stay (those who are returning from going on holiday/business (ie non-essential travel) or do not intend staying in NZ for more than 3 months will have to contribute to costs, but very few people have been asked to pay so far). Those staying in the hotels are asked to have a covid test on about day 3 and then about day 12 of their stay. They have the right to refuse the testing, but will have to stay longer to ensure they are not taking covid into the community (and it is important to note that many of the cases detected in managed isolation were asymptomatic - without isolation and testing, these people would have entered the community and spread the disease). These requirements have been outlined for months and returning NZers are aware that they must isolate to prevent the spread of the disease. The staff at these hotels are also trained in infection prevention measures, and the number of staff working at these facilities is limited. As we have eliminated community transmission, the only cases we are seeing are at the border, mostly in and around managed isolation.
In addition, many of the returning NZers are coming back to NZ without a fixed address - these are typically NZers who have been living overseas for many years and are getting out of countries where the virus is uncontrolled. That is, they land in NZ with nowhere to isolate. Even if they do have suitable accommodation, they will likely not then have ready access to testing or other resources needed.

The other issue is quarantining community cases of covid-19. Those who contract the virus in the community (so not through international travel or working at the border) are asked to enter a quarantine facility, which is again, a hotel that isolates known covid-19 cases in a single place so that a) the isolation of known cases is guaranteed, b) there are specialised groups of staff who work solely at the facility and c) medical interventions are very responsive and know exactly what they are dealing with (ie paramedics know the covid status and can respond accordingly). Most of these "facilities" are actually just sections of the managed isolation hotels that are cordoned off for known covid cases. There is a dedicated hotel in Auckland, but that was really only used in the peak of our first and second waves (and was nowhere near full in either wave).

Bonus fun-fact: once you have ended your stay in managed isolation, you get to step out into covid-free communities. You can even go to a sporting event or concert, if you like.

For community covid-19 cases, entering a quarantine facility is voluntary. Yes, entering a facility is encouraged as it is the best way to eliminate the virus. You can bring your family with you, even if they have not yet tested positive. Your meals are provided and you get regular health check-ins, even if you aren't sick. If you do deteriorate, you get immediate medical help from staff who have the resources to implement strict infection control as they provide assistance (as opposed, for example, to the community cases earlier in the pandemic who got themselves to medical centres and as such forced the shut down of those medical centres).

However, there were many examples of community cases choosing not to enter quarantine. They are instead supported in their own homes. There seem to be a variety of reasons these people choose to stay at home, but there doesn't seem to have been any outright refusals just for shits and giggles or concerns about so-called "freedoms".

In both managed isolation at the border and in the community, you get a room to yourself. You don't share with anyone, unless you were travelling with them (ie family or friends). And like I said, if you were infected in the community, your family can come with you into managed isolation, if that is what works best for you and your family.

As much as we all like to think that just because we would isolate correctly (which also assumes you have the resources to do so), it is simply not the case that everyone else would do the same. Our biggest and most recent cluster was produced through people refusing to believe the virus is even real. As a result, the virus spread through the community and more people died.

Our system is not perfect. But it is not as described by Fox News idiots. There are no forced quarantine camps. You'll just have an extended stay in a hotel if you return to the country and refuse to be tested.

Thanks @misanthrope for the explanation!

Misanthrope already covered it very comprehensively and I have nothing much more to add. I just wanna express how bloody toxic Fox News is to public discourse. Their host Laura Ingraham made up this story link
"The American left and their media poodles have long held up New Zealand as the model for how to properly deal with a lot of things, including Covid, but anyone who loves freedom should take note because the Kiwis have a terrifying new response to rising Covid case numbers."

"They're throwing people into quarantine camps."

"No leaving the camp until you're negative," Ingraham adds, putting on a faux New Zealand accent.

They so desperately want to paint left-wing governments as inept that they'll make up literal fake news about them. Curiously, many of the countries with the worst responses are actually led by the populist right-wing governments that Fox News supports (the correlation link considering their worldview)

Far-right British politician Suzanne Evans link further by calling Jacinda Ardern "fascist" and comparing NZ to Nazi Germany. It apparently was also taken up by other outlets .

Kiwis took it all in their typical linkthough. linklmao.

link that have experienced the isolation hotels first-hand:
"Hmmm if by 'camps' you mean free, four to five star hotel with free food and drink, then yes"

"I arrived into New Zealand about a month ago and they aren't exactly quarantine camps. They put us up in five star hotels with all food and drinks paid for. The Fillet steak and roast beef meals being my favourites, although having a full cooked breakfast every day was also very nice. I almost chose not to take the test just so I could stay longer."

"The personal freedoms of those 'few thousand people' might be restricted for a couple of weeks, but in return, NZ can operate as a country Covid-free, and for that, we have five million NZ'ers who can go about their daily lives unimpeded ... including those most vulnerable to Covid. Just remember folks that those 220k+ Americans who have died have lost the ultimate freedom ... the freedom to live."

Tl;dr
Fox News don't deserve the latter part of their name.

With media like that... at least it now makes more sense to me that tens of millions of people are voting for Donald Trump this week lol.

Do I support the isolation hotels, which Australia has as well (and which as misanthrope explained, are very different to the Fox News "quarantine camps")?

Hell yes.

Lmao I didn't spend 112 days in lockdown just for some entitled shits to come from the US or Europe and start another wave.

Actual fake news???

Thanks for the feedback, guys! The fact that 'legit' news sources like Fox are exaggerating things and misinforming the general public is (not entirely shocking) but is in such poor form. Goes to show that you really do gotta do your own research about every gotdamn thing even if you find stuff from an supposedly credible source.

Yeah it's saddening and maddening in equal measure lol

As one presidential scholar link: Who needs state-owned propaganda when you have friends like these?

Even leading conservatives have link about the network's increasing level of misinformation: Bill Kristol, who was a paid contributor to Fox News until 2012, said “It’s changed a lot. Before, it was conservative, but it wasn’t crazy. Now it’s just propaganda". Jennifer Rubin, a conservative columnist, said "It’s simply a mouthpiece for the President, repeating what the President says, no matter how false or contradictory".

On top of that, unfortunately there's some sort of unholy amplification of fake news between Trump and Fox. From link:
A vicious feedback loop has developed. Fox airs implausible claims, e.g., speculating that it was Ukraine, not Russia, that was guilty of interference in the U.S. election, or asserting that Russia was really rooting for Hillary Clinton to win. Trump echoes Fox’s fantasies in his own tweets and remarks. Fox, in turn, cites the president as confirmation for its made-up stories. As Dartmouth professor Brendan Nyhan notes, it’s a “perpetual motion machine of bullshit.”

I'm not surprised other outlets fall for it. Unfortunately Fox News was the link channel on all of American TV this summer, and it spends mind-boggling amounts of money on spreading its propaganda.

That's pretty bad if even people from the same political party that you're representing is calling you out on your shit. Like Fox News needs to take a step back and re-evaluate what they're doing. Like the job of news stations and journalism is to observe and report, not incorporate their own biases.

i dont even think we should have mask mandates so i certainly dont support this and why cant the sick just isolate themselves? what is with an idea to isolate everyone makes no sense

Yeah, were it not exaggerated, I think that an all out camp would be overdoing it.