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zoophilia

^ ^ hey, so i know hat you're thinking :\
um...so lets try to ignore the awkwardness of this question, what is your views on this? uh....if you don't know that it is you "can" or cannot watch the video, depending on..what you want to do *sigh* okay, just don't get mad at me and don't freak out :(
 coriann posted over a year ago
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tiagih said:
I know your not supposed to judge what you don't understand but may I say this is kinda gross. I know beasitiality isn't new, but I can't image the state of mind somoene is in to let a horse have sex with you and vise versra. I mean to they let that horse mate with other horses, if so are they sick physically as well as what I can assume mentally.

The real sick part is that its not so much the sex that they enjoy but they have an emotional attachment to it all, the horses "responses", being courted by the horse, and even the idea of the horse enjoying it. I mean I really don't understand this behavior, its gross.


1. These people either are hiding from the rest of society or are very bold

2. I hope that I never have to go to a hospital with them there, and hope if they ever have kids that their kids live a normal, functioning life that isn't full of gross viruses and diseases.
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posted over a year ago 
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^ ^ rofl! yeah i could immagine how they're kinds will turn out...strangely enough, i don't find this is gross atall, whatever call me weird but i don't not that i think i would enjoy humping my dog/mini turtles, just...i looked at it and i was just neutral
coriann posted over a year ago
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i guess it still weird
tiagih posted over a year ago
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yeah ha ha
coriann posted over a year ago
bri-marie said:
I am very much against it.

Animals do not think or communicate the same way we do. And, because they cannot, truly, communicate to us their wishes, they can't truly consent to this. To me, this is something very similar to rape.
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posted over a year ago 
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okay, sure, you woudn't be the only one, however i think the woman communicated with the horse just fine, i mean, animals can't talk, they're sex is often very much like rape, the male simply jumps on top of the female and does what he wants, sometimes the female doesn't like it and he stops, or if he can overpower her he just keeps going, well...hat's with dogs and cats...stray ones, they barely get to choose who they want to do because the strongest male is usually the winner in the situation.
coriann posted over a year ago
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A dog communicates in... dogese? Dog speak? We don't. Our body language isn't even the same. There, is, literally, no way for them to communicate to us. Also: we are more than our animal counterparts. I would hope that people wouldn't think that "well, dogs do it to other dogs, so it must be okay if I do it" as an acceptable excuse.
bri-marie posted over a year ago
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that's one way to look at it :P
coriann posted over a year ago
cassie-1-2-3 said:
I absolutely refuse to judge someone by saying that they are mentally unstable or monsters just because of some sexual philia. Have all the sexual animal thoughts and fantasies you want, it's harmless, just don't act on it. There is no possible way for an animal to concent to any sexual act, because animals cannot talk.
I feel no need to say anything bad about people who want to.
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"There is no possible way for an animal to connect to a sexual act" that's a theory, "talking" is only one small part of communication, and if animals can have sex with other animals, why can't they have sex with us? well...now i think im starting to sounds gross :P the only *phelia* the only phelia people seem to have the biggest problem with is pedophilia, while i don't agree with the acting out of this, i can totally come to terms with their feelings, because children are humans, plus have you seen the way some little ladies dress these days? it might be hard to admit that it's not so hard to do....ehem im drifting from the point (zoophilia) yeah, sorry :\
coriann posted over a year ago
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Animals communicate to each other, they have their own language. They don't need to speak English to communicate. We, as humans, can not naturally communicate with them. The few that have learned the language, there's no guarentee that the animal understands us. Knowing a few words does not indicate a thurough understanding of human language.
cassie-1-2-3 posted over a year ago
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lol
coriann posted over a year ago
Dragonclaws said:
It's rape... but if we accept that it's fine to kill animals for their meat... and that murder of humans is a worse crime than rape of humans... it logically follows that rape of animals is even more okay than having a hamburger. Thoughts?
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lol, this is kinda funny ^ ^ i like the way you wrote it, well...lets see, killing animals is worse than killing humans, this is what i believe but, it's just my opinion, besides it;s the circle of life, rape of animals being more okay than eating hamburger...id like to say yes but i'd sound evil :P
coriann posted over a year ago
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Well I would think my hamburger is less harmful in my body then having a male animals "ding dong" in mine
tiagih posted over a year ago
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hmm?
coriann posted over a year ago
dreamfields said:
I believe it is wrong. I see it as a perversion of sexuality. To answer your question it is against the law in the US, and in several other countries.
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posted over a year ago 
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oh okay
coriann posted over a year ago
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Hope I did not sound to stern, I was just sharing my opinion :)
dreamfields posted over a year ago
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:)
coriann posted over a year ago
Roxas1314 said:
I don't like this...mainly because I firmly believe that having sexual intercourse with an animal is rape, and rape is possibly the most horrendous thing I can imagine.
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okay i don't think its necessarily rape, just because it's a different species, but. i guess if you want to put it like that you can
coriann posted over a year ago
whiteflame55 said:
Alright, so there are a bunch of difficulties with this.

First off, there's the health concerns. There are obviously a ton of microbiological issues. If you're having sex with an animal of a different species, STDs are just a small part in a long list of bacterial and viral concerns. There's also the problem of size. Though it's not mentioned in the video, this can be a major problem, because even if they're enjoying it the health concern rises when you're with a partner who is larger than you can accommodate. Some might say that this is only a concern for the individual involved in the act, but these kinds of diseases have a way of getting out.

Second, and I would say most importantly, there's the issue of consent. Now, listening to what this couple was saying certainly makes it sound like the horse was consenting, but if we're talking about zoophilia, we're not just referring to this case. There would be plenty of cases in which we'd be unsure as to the willingness of the animal to take part. But even if we're absolutely sure, can they consent? We don't allow children to consent mainly because mentally they're not prepared to make such a decision. It seems to me that that's an inherent barrier to acceptance here. Should a horse be able to consent, and if so, what intellectual level do they need to be at?

Third, it really does speak to mental concerns. I think it's reasonable to be concerned about someone who is more interested in coupling with a horse than they are with another human being. They're not monsters, they're not terrible people or anything, but it seems to me that someone who feels such a scant connection to their own species is having issues.
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bravo excellent points
tiagih posted over a year ago
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^ ^ awe, thanks whiteflame55, this seems to me to be the most thought out most reasonable explanation here than the rest and it was very informative
coriann posted over a year ago
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Well said
dreamfields posted over a year ago
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