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hey i have this school debate coming up, regarding whether males have more pressure/stress or females. help would be appreciated!

so it this friday! i really need some help. especially for the comebacks.
there isn't really a exact topic qn, more of male vs female.
BTW: supporting males
so here are the points i have so far, they are broken down into 4 groups:
1) ARMY
- in singapore, guys are required to joined the army whereas girls is not necessary

2) Pressure from family
-to have kids.
-responsible to carry on family name.
- pressure to get married
-typically men are expected to propose to the girl (guys chase girl)

3)Own responsibilities within own family.
- men are expected to be breadwinners of families and "bring home the bacon" (if does not looked down upon, whereas a women not working is acceptable in this society)
- in terms of when a women is pregnant/ with kids, men are expected not only to take care of his kids but wife as well, extra burden. has a lot to do.
- men dont have maternity leave; have additional work upon them to take care of wifes
(i'm not bringing up the of single parents as it is redundant, as if one dies one has to take over responsibility of another; make not much sense)

4) Pressure from outside society (i'm not exactly sure how this helps my side of the debate or even if its a valid point but my friend insisted on putting it in, my opinion not very valid)
- men cant cry in public.

if you could help me, add to these categories. it would be very much appreciated!! statistics, facts, anything!!
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Chances are, you've already had the debate. How did it go?
harold posted over a year ago
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yeah, did you win?
pandawinx posted over a year ago
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thanks for the support guys! you guys are sweets. but sadly no. mainly cause it was a debate in chinese and when translations happen some stuff was lost and the rules were that when rebut the entire thing took like 10 not per group but everthing and the guy from the other group said a lot or uh and um and wasted loads of time. so while they were able to get their points across we had no time. this debate is a little different than the ones people normally have. lols. but its all good :D till next time! ;D
alisonfaith297 posted over a year ago
 alisonfaith297 posted over a year ago
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bri-marie said:
Personally, I don't think either gender has any more pressure than the other. They have pressure in different places, but it's no greater or less than the other gender.

1). This is true. And in drafts, women aren't chosen, only men. But women face stereotypes if they join the army. "She's a dyke", "she's butch", "her husband/fiance/boyfriend is there and she doesn't trust him, so she joined to keep an eye on him", "she's too small", "she's too weak", "she's a girl, so she can't do the things we do."

2)Women have the pressure as well. Pressure to get married, have kids, find the "good/right" guy, and have boys to carry on the family name.

3)Same thing. Women are expected to cook, clean, take care of the children, shop for clothes/groceries/other necessities. While the men are at work, the women are expected to keep the house clean and running.

4) Again, it's equal. If women cry, they're "weak" and "soft". Both genders have the pressure to always look perfect, to look like the models on magazine covers.

I'm not entirely sure what side you're debating for, so I'm not sure if it helps. Just throwin' it out there.
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So, i assume you didn't read the bit in her question saying "BTW: supporting males " then?
pandawinx posted over a year ago
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You'd assume correctly. As I specifically stated I didn't know what side she was on.
bri-marie posted over a year ago
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She's also speaking specifically about the culture in Singapore, not more generally.
harold posted over a year ago
harold said:
It is late for me to be answering this question, and for that, I apologize.

Definitions:
stress for the purposes of this debate I will define as physical and mental discomfort brought about by negative emotional states.
Pressure I will define as a negative emotional state in response to expectations of performance (either expectations of others or expectations of the person himself)

Since you are presenting arguments about the pressures on males in Singapore, I'm having difficulty finding worthwhile statistics for your country. Here are some ideas for arguments you might make, along with statistical information you might seek to support those arguments:
* Human males and females process information in very different ways. Males are generally less communicative (and often less aware) of their emotions. So even in the cases where stressors are similar between males and females, what they do with that stress, and how they process that stress, can go a long way toward reducing or increasing the sense of pressure the person experiences. Females have a greater capacity for sharing their frustrations, talking about them, with others. It is an effect of different brain chemistry that this does not come as naturally to males. Just by being a male, before one even considers societal expectations, males are at a disadvantage in terms of processing and handling stress.

Statistics you might seek to support this:
- rates of stress-related health and mental health problems in males and females (how many men had ulcers? how many women had ulcers? how many men vs. women had nervous breakdowns?)
- addiction rates between males and females. Do more men seek comfort in a bottle or the arms of a prostitute than women?

* What is the consequence for males vs. females when they're wrong? What happens if they make a big mistake - are the consequences different? What sorts of mistakes are acceptable/understandable for each gender, and which aren't?

- suicide rates by gender
- amount of press attention on different transgressions by gender

* What is the level of competition that males experience at school, at work, in sports, and in public, versus females?
- if males are expected to be the "breadwinners" in Singapore, then statistics such as the rate of unemployment by gender would be worthwhile - there's pressure just to have a job
- I'm sorry to say I don't know what the education system in Singapore is. Are there private schools or public schools? Are there entrance exams to get into better or different schools? Are there schools where males are expected to go versus females? If so, what is the ratio between applicants and students accepted into these schools?

These are a few examples; I regret that I know so little about Singapore and so can't give more concrete statistics myself.
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thanks anyways. its ok. and BTW: 31 countries subscribe to conscription.
alisonfaith297 posted over a year ago
pandawinx said:
Well, three of the points on "2" are unisex pressures.

I think i might have a few things to add for your side of the debate, but i can't promise they'll be brilliant, sorry! but i hope this helps-
-he male hormones seems to make males feel like they have to be strong for the family. when tradegy strikes, men are required to keep a strong face and act as if nothing happened. they have the added pressure of the being the strong one who has to stay strong, and as you said "can't cry in public". Men also are pressured to keep their emotions to thereselves,they are meant to be emotionally detacted as it is considered manly not to worry or feel passionately about something.
- In their teenage years, men at school, or high schools, seem of have some kind of pack order. Whoever is the strongest, has the "hottest" girlfriend or is the most cool or respected seems to be the alpha male, some kind of pack leadership. Boys seem to be pressured to be the alpha male and to fit in among the boy-stereotype. Unlike females, boys and their friends are less likely to accept you if you are particullarly different to the rest of the boys at your school, and all the boys want to be in with the pack, therefore pressure to fit in.

Good luck, i hope you do well in your debate, oddly enough, i have a debate coming up soon as well! :) sorry if my arguements were a bit weak, it's just you covvered most of it yourself! :)
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its ok. thanks!
alisonfaith297 posted over a year ago
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"^Yeah. From my experiances, guys and girls were just as equally open about their dislike (or like) of me, and were both just as cruel (and nice) about how they expressed it." Oh, sorry to hear that. I got on with most girls my age, although looking back there were a few girls i disliked, who i found irritatingly plastic, but i don't think i ever got into a cat fight or comfronted anyone. There were girls i disliked, but i don't think i had any enemies.
pandawinx posted over a year ago
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It's alright. It bothered me when I was younger but as I got older it got to a point where I realized that I'd much rather have them be open and honest about their feelings than lie and pretend.
bri-marie posted over a year ago
JaydaJadie said:
I would have to say women can scream there head, like me! I'm only 11 years old! I scream at my 8 year old sister! Really loud!
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